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Post by Ivan Lin on Sat May 09, 2009 9:50 pm

ok i know that this is kind of stupid but it seems to be nagging at me for quite a time now. ma lin and wang hao are both a little bit short and chubby and they both play penhold. wang liqin and ma long are both kind of tall and skinny and they both play shakehand.(0.0) the even more funny part is that lui guoliang(the current male chinese head coach and former star ping pong player of china) is ALSO chubby, short and PLAYS PENHOLD. now kong linghui(the current female head coach of china also the former star of china) ALSO is tall, skinny and he PLAY SHAKEHAND. i am really wondering if body size and weight have to do with your style because it seems to be following in this trend. short,chubby=penhold, and tall,skinny=shakehand. now this got me thinking if i should switch to shakehand but the funny part is that i like penhold better than shakehand. again this is a very interesting controversy and i hope to hear what u guys want to say.
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Post by iJacky on Sat May 09, 2009 10:03 pm

lolz ivan i totally agree w/ u coz ive also noticed this trend b4 =)
but i disagree w/ ur theory coz all those players started when they were young n ppl change physiques over time so ur theorys probly wrong... =X

btw now u got me wondering if playing penhold makes players short/chubby n playing shakehand makes players tall/skinny? o_O"

p.s. also note that penholds the traditional chinese playing style...
n that shakehands the traditional nonchinese playing style...
that explains a lot since typically chinese players r shorter than nonchinese players =)

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Post by RaymondWu on Sat May 09, 2009 10:31 pm

i doubt it...penhold needs ma long speed,without RPB blocking can make you run all over the place
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Post by iJacky on Sat May 09, 2009 10:41 pm

penhold playing styles already hav speed...
n shakehand playing styles already hav power...
so all pros gota do is hav power 4 penhold players n speed 4 shakehand players =)

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Post by Andy Mai on Sat May 09, 2009 10:58 pm

Fun theory to pick at but I doubt it is true. When picking at the fact Wang Liqin is more athletic than Ma Lin, he also has a strong upperbody. Shakehand is suppose to be faster than penhold so I'm guessing his upperbody is the reason to his powerful smashes and loops.
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Post by David Xiong on Sat May 09, 2009 11:06 pm

i believe that the taller you are, the more speed you have because its more momentum. For example: In a circle, if there is a radius going around the center like a clock, the point in middle of the radius would be moving slower than the point on the edge of the radius. Also, I do not think body weight matters but the weight of the racket does since force equals mass times acceleration. That's why pros use very heavy blades. Physics is useful =D
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Post by David Xiong on Sat May 09, 2009 11:08 pm

RaymondWu wrote:i doubt it...penhold needs ma long speed,without RPB blocking can make you run all over the place
You can block with forehand too, but Chinese players are too aggressive to block so you don't see it often
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Post by iJacky on Sat May 09, 2009 11:12 pm

Andy Mai wrote:Fun theory to pick at but I doubt it is true. When picking at the fact Wang Liqin is more athletic than Ma Lin, he also has a strong upperbody. Shakehand is suppose to be faster than penhold so I'm guessing his upperbody is the reason to his powerful smashes and loops.

rnt shakehand players slower but stronger than penhold players? o_O"
this is coz generally slower atks r stronger n faster atks r weaker... =X
since it takes more time preparing 4 a stronger atk than a weaker atk =)

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Post by iJacky on Sat May 09, 2009 11:16 pm

David Xiong wrote:i believe that the taller you are, the more speed you have because its more momentum. For example: In a circle, if there is a radius going around the center like a clock, the point in middle of the radius would be moving slower than the point on the edge of the radius. Also, I do not think body weight matters but the weight of the racket does since force equals mass times acceleration. That's why pros use very heavy blades. Physics is useful =D

actually body weight does matter just probly not as much... =X
since u can use it 2 apply weight shift which adds more power but requires more time 2 prepare =)


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Post by iJacky on Sat May 09, 2009 11:17 pm

David Xiong wrote:
RaymondWu wrote:i doubt it...penhold needs ma long speed,without RPB blocking can make you run all over the place
You can block with forehand too, but Chinese players are too aggressive to block so you don't see it often

lolz david they do block w/ their backhands more often =)

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Post by David Xiong on Sat May 09, 2009 11:32 pm

penholders don't like relying on their backhand to win the point because you can't loop with it. You often see them leaning to their forehand instead like Ma Lin. That's why his arm looks like a chicken wing when he loops sometimes XD. Wang Hao is a completely different issue though. His style looks half shakehand half penhold since his forehand is completely Chinese yet his backhand resembles a shakehand's. The only problem I see with his style is backhand backspin. He rarely needs to use it because of his unique backhand flick but when I see him do it, he has to switch to traditional backhand or twist his arm awkwardly.
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Post by RaymondWu on Sun May 10, 2009 9:06 am

David Xiong wrote:
RaymondWu wrote:i doubt it...penhold needs ma long speed,without RPB blocking can make you run all over the place
You can block with forehand too, but Chinese players are too aggressive to block so you don't see it often
in wangliqn vs ma lin games, wang liqin makes ma lin run all over the court with back hand blocks. penhold players are forced to gao diao most of the time like ma lin
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Post by RaymondWu on Sun May 10, 2009 9:07 am

RPB can do backspins with the backside
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Post by Andy Mai on Sun May 10, 2009 9:24 am

iJacky wrote:
Andy Mai wrote:Fun theory to pick at but I doubt it is true. When picking at the fact Wang Liqin is more athletic than Ma Lin, he also has a strong upperbody. Shakehand is suppose to be faster than penhold so I'm guessing his upperbody is the reason to his powerful smashes and loops.

rnt shakehand players slower but stronger than penhold players? o_O"
this is coz generally slower atks r stronger n faster atks r weaker... =X
since it takes more time preparing 4 a stronger atk than a weaker atk =)

Shakehand attacks are faster than penhold. Penhold has more spin though.
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Post by RaymondWu on Sun May 10, 2009 10:31 am

at the same time i think wang liqin weighs more than any of them so...
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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 3:12 pm

its coz shakehand styles giv more power than penhold styles =)
n yes i agree w/ andy that penhold styles giv more spin coz of more wrist =)

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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 3:14 pm

RaymondWu wrote:at the same time i think wang liqin weighs more than any of them so...

lolz so thats y he has the most power compared 2 other chinese players =)
also its coz of his shakehand style since it givs players more power 2 =)

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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 3:16 pm

RaymondWu wrote:RPB can do backspins with the backside

yea n sumhow it has way more backspin compared 2 traditional penhold backhand... =X
im guessing it defntly has sumthing 2 do w/ more wrist power since its rpb =)

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Post by Andy Mai on Sun May 10, 2009 5:05 pm

iJacky wrote:
RaymondWu wrote:at the same time i think wang liqin weighs more than any of them so...

lolz so thats y he has the most power compared 2 other chinese players =)
also its coz of his shakehand style since it givs players more power 2 =)

He has a lot of muscle weight as to fat weight.
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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 5:15 pm

i agree w/ u andy =)
but muscle weight is still fat weight rite? o_O"
since 100lbs of muscle weight still equals 100lbs of fat weight =P

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Post by Andy Mai on Sun May 10, 2009 5:18 pm

iJacky wrote:i agree w/ u andy =)
but muscle weight is still fat weight rite? o_O"
since 100lbs of muscle weight still equals 100lbs of fat weight =P
Muscle is more packed allowing for faster, quicker movement.
Fat sags your body slowing you down = slower movement = slower smash = slower ball.
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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 5:36 pm

Andy Mai wrote:
iJacky wrote:i agree w/ u andy =)
but muscle weight is still fat weight rite? o_O"
since 100lbs of muscle weight still equals 100lbs of fat weight =P
Muscle is more packed allowing for faster, quicker movement.
Fat sags your body slowing you down = slower movement = slower smash = slower ball.

yea i agree w/ ur logical statement =)
it reminds me of this giant dude in hb whose got a fat belly...
n altho hes got so much power in his shots his speed aka reaction/recovery time is kinda slow =)

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Post by Ariel Chen on Sun May 10, 2009 7:42 pm

i wouldn't really consider wang hao and ma lin to be chubby or short.. liu guo liang is probably chubby now but he's retired. and when he did play he was short and skinny, not chubby

besides wang liqin, all the other chinese shakehanders aren't that tall

xu xin's going to be the next wang hao and he's "tall and skinny" so yeah.

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Post by Ariel Chen on Sun May 10, 2009 7:45 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2JLU_c-sU here's a video if you don't know who xu xin is. (check out the awesome backhand lob edge haha)

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Post by iJacky on Sun May 10, 2009 8:23 pm

Ariel Chen wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS2JLU_c-sU here's a video if you don't know who xu xin is. (check out the awesome backhand lob edge haha)

lolz wang hao doesnt look like he was playing 4 real @ start... =X
coz u can c how w/e he misses he wud swing his arms around like he was just fooling w/ him =P

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